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Hosting of future World Championships 8 years 9 months ago #85

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After the Worlds in Palermo, I fielded many comments from disgruntled sailors. Some fairly so, some not. We must remember that the decision to go to Palermo was taken by sailors of the fleet, and no one individual. Perhaps, in hindsight, the reasons for going to Palermo were swayed by the view and some emotion, rather than a secure knowledge of what to expect.
In my opinion, Worlds venues should be selected on criteria that represent the best interests of the class.
It has been seen through the history of the class that the established fleets show growth in the years that they host Worlds, and this is a trend that should be supported. Also to be considered are new venues where a strong possibility exists of starting and developing a sustainable fleet. Spain has been mentioned as a possibilty due to good sailors and strong government support for the sport. Perhaps some could be persuaded that the 505 is the only option as a performance dinghy with strong fleets in Europe.
We can go to exotic countries, but if we leave no legacy besides our hard earned cash, then to what avail? Also, should we be supporting countries where the fleets generally do not support other events in substantial numbers?
We have San Fransisco, Aarhus and possibly (but probably) Hamilton Island lined up. What then? We need to look to the future and use our international showpiece to promote and grow the fleet.
These are my thoughts, and I would welcome any comments...:)
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Re:Hosting of future World Championships 8 years 9 months ago #87

Peter,

I have attached a document that might be worth reviewing from a 505 perspective. We developed this for the Tasar class in Australia as a template for how we wanted our National championships to be organised and run. It is also an important tool in deciding which venues are suitable and which are not. The alternative is to leave it in the lap of the gods with the state association and local club charged with running the event and hope they pull it off.

I think the important thing to note in these major event guidlelines is the following,

"The Australian Tasar Championships are the annual national championships held for the Tasar class by the class’s peak association in Australia – the Australian Tasar Council Inc (ATC).
The ATC invites state and territory Tasar associations to conduct the National Championships on behalf of the ATC under the following guidelines." In other words, these are our Championships and if you want to run them, this is how it will be done.

One thing that has been toned down somewhat in this version of the Tasar guidlines is the suitability of the course area for racing in terms of tides, expected wind strength, distance from shore to the race course, expected sea conditions, land effect influence, etc, etc. Venues should always be selected based on their ability to offer fair and enjoyable sailing to the majority of the fleet. I believe in future venues should be selected keeping in mind this fundamental requirement of good sailing conditions.

I suspect if the 505 class developed its own set of major events guidelines that were used similarly and adhered to, there would be far less room for complaint after a Worlds. The Tasar guidelines are fluid and keep getting updated to accommodate new thinking and the wishes of the fleet. By providing a template that has worked in the past and covers all bases, at least the organising body has a fighting chance of pulling off a great event if they stick to the guidelines.

If the 505 class developed guidelines for the running of World and National championships, maybe the the main overiding considerations in venue selection should be highlighted as -
(1) fair and enjoyable sailing conditions for the majority of the fleet
(2) a venue that maximises exposure and future growth of the 505 class
(3) is an attractive holiday destination for sailors and supporters (most important!!)

Anyway, some food for thought. Hope it might be of some assistance.

JR

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Re:Hosting of future World Championships 8 years 9 months ago #88

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We have a set of guidelines under Section C of our rules. A copy is avilable on the old site, however, it only addresses item 1 on your list for consideration, so I would hope any suggestions incorporated in this discussion will allow us to develop and improve these guidelines.
As you said, the tasar document you have attached does seem to be a sensible springboard to promote and improve our own events.
Peter
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Re:Hosting of future World Championships 8 years 9 months ago #89

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Unfortunately the championship guidelines could not be adhered to in Palermo, and this was particularly frustrating to myself and many others, but at the end of the day it was a question of having a World Championships or not ...... with 125 boats there, and with the benefit of hindsight, the right calls were made in the circumstances.

I agree that we need to take more rational, and less emotional, decisions over selecting venues for major championships in the future and I think to make that happen, the International Committee needs to take a bigger role in planning and organisation of major events, rather than devolving responsibility to one or other of the National Associations.

It also became very clear to me at Palermo that we need to take control over the content and format of the presentation of proposals to our AGM - glossy videos are all very well, but we need the information specified in our championship guidelines, and give due consideration to the the very important second and third criteria identified by Jonathan, in order to make better and well informed decisions for the class as a whole.

Talking to some of the guys who are also active other classes, we are well off the pace in this regard - and only have ourselves to blame !!

With San Francisco coming in a few months, and Aarhus lined up for 2010, we should take this opportunity to take a critical look at all events beyond these two, to see how well they meet the critera.

Given the current global economic climate we should also be considering a 4th criteria:-

* Economic viability of the proposal

This is already having a significant impact on attendance at San Francisco, with only 5 GBR boats planning on attending, verses 14 GBR boats which travelled to Santa Cruz in 2004 and the 14 GBR boats which went to Palermo.
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Re:Hosting of future World Championships 8 years 9 months ago #90

Peter,

found the 505 guidelines on the new site under Class Admin / Document Downloads / Class Rules (or go to www.int505.org/index.php?option=com_docm...mid=119&limitstart=5)

Looks like the existing guidelines are pretty comprehensive. Just a case of fine tuning what the class wants to achieve when running a major event and writing them into an updated version of the document.

In relation to the 3 points I made about venue selection, given the wide variety of countries and sailing venues we can choose from, it shouldn't be too hard to select venues that fulfill all 3 criteria. The point I would make is that if a nominated venue only rates 2 out of 3, move onto another location that does. It's a big world and why settle for second best or a compromise when selecting a venue for an event such as a 505 Worlds? If the class can provide knockout sailing conditions in great locations, year in, year out for the Worlds, it will help consolidate the 505 as a great class to be involved with.

JR

PS Simon, couldn't agree more about financial viability being an important consideration when selecting a venue. If it's too expensive for competitors to get to or the living costs are through the roof once you get there, it will severely limit the number of competitors willing to commit.
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Re:Hosting of future World Championships 8 years 9 months ago #93

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As someone returning to the 505 class after an absence of many years, one observation I'd like to make is that media coverage is critically important, in this day and age, in promoting the class and maintaining the enthusiasm of those who cannot attend major events. The media efforts for the 2008 World's in Palermo were dreadful and reflected poorly on the class. The web site was difficult to navigate, while news, updates and results were posted rarely and were generally of low quality. Were it not for the blogging efforts of a handful of teams, it would have been impossible to find out what had happened on any given day of racing.

The 505 Worlds is a major annual yacht racing event, yet one looked in vain on the major sailing web sites for any sign that the regatta was going on. Contrast this with the excellent promotional and media efforts that the Melges 24 class provides for its members, for world, national and regional events.

I recognize that we are a class run by volunteers who go above and beyond the call of duty to contribute to the health and future prospects of the 505 class. But I think it would help our cause immensely if we could get better organized in this particular area. Two great signs of progress are this new international class site, which is outstanding and compares very well with the best sailing class sites, and the 2009 Worlds site that was put up shortly after Palermo. If we keep moving in this direction I believe we will reap substantial benefits.

Many thanks to those responsible for the recent improvements. Let us keep building on these successes going forward.

Guy
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